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Iacobulus wrote:Hortatory is the correct term, actually. However, you don't see too much usage of the hortatory subjunctive in a relative clause. Because if you translate the hortatory as "Let us do" so and so, then it is awkward. Maybe if it were made into a deliberative (whom we should) or potential subjunctive (whom we would/could).
Sorry to pick, but I'm currently taking a Latin composition class, so this very relevant to me!.
The rest seems fine, albeit a bit elementary, very St. Jerome. Not that it's a bad thing, a certain amount of poinancy can be had from simplistic syntax, rather than being bogged down in Ciceronian rhetoric.
However, I would perhaps add a few more conjunctions to liven it up a bit and give it a better flow. Maybe some connective conjunctions (igitur, ergo, itaque, etc.) or some adversative (sed, autem, tamen). I also see the potentional for a lot more periaphrastic constructions with gerundives (must and so forth).
What is this for exactly?
Primus Aurelius Tergestus wrote:Salve Iacobule,
Sorry to pick, but it's "potential"
My Latin teacher used to call the horatory subjunctive the "salad subjunctive" because more often than not it was translated "Let us..". It was one of those school boy mnemonics like "dic, duc, fac and fer should have an 'e' but it isn't there" and "We beat all liars" (the endings of each conjugation in the present subjunctive). I'm curious: are those still taught today? I last studied Latin 25 years ago and these rules stuck with me.
Tergestus
Primus Aurelius Tergestus wrote:Also, it is "periphrastic".
Primus Aurelius Tergestus wrote:Salve Iacobule,
Sorry to pick, but it's "potential"
My Latin teacher used to call the horatory subjunctive the "salad subjunctive" because more often than not it was translated "Let us..". It was one of those school boy mnemonics like "dic, duc, fac and fer should have an 'e' but it isn't there" and "We beat all liars" (the endings of each conjugation in the present subjunctive). I'm curious: are those still taught today? I last studied Latin 25 years ago and these rules stuck with me.
Tergestus
Q. Valerius Scerio wrote:If you ever feel the need to try it out, #latin on EFNet is my channel where we sometimes speak in Latin.
Iacobulus wrote:At my university (U of Kentucky), we are fairly well-renown for our Latin Institute, which is a four-course graduate program taught entirely in Latin.
Also, every summer the department hosts a conventiculum, in which scholars from all around come to discuss Latin in Latin.
I've only just begun learning to actually communicate in Latin, and it is quite a daunting task to carry on a conversation in Latin.
Iacobulus wrote:Q. Valerius Scerio wrote:If you ever feel the need to try it out, #latin on EFNet is my channel where we sometimes speak in Latin.
Thanks for the offer, I may look into, but believe me when I say that I get plenty of practice here! The second part of my Latin composition class is completely in Latin, lecture, discussion, everything. It's next semester! I hope I'm prepared, I've only been practicing conversational Latin during this semester. Bona fortuna mihi.
Q. Valerius Scerio wrote:Ita vero, multa fortunae tibi vero! Eheu, mi amice, sole in Latinam? Difficillimum etiam mihi!
Iacobulus wrote:Quis est custos fori huius? Res ad linguam Latinam loquendam est instituenda!
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