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Q. C. Locatus Barbatus wrote:Love is (as all of our feelings) something biochemical. Hormones play an important part in it. Just last night I was watching a documentary on hormones in which they said: "people do believe that fear and hate is something that is created by hormones, but of love they want to believe it is something supernatural". This is, I think, very true. Because love forces euphoric feelings people try to relatate it to supernatural things. But it isn't. Unfortunately.
But I don't believe in Darwinistic views that state that love doens't exist; that desire 'to mate' is the only thing that matters. There surely is some desire , but I don't think love has very much to see with it. How would you explain "one-night stands"?
Q. C. Locatus Barbatus wrote:For me, the one love does not exist. It would be very strange that people always find their 'one love' in their neighbourhood.
Q. C. Locatus Barbatus wrote:I think we can live together with several people. What doesn't mean that the human being you chose to live together with should be the wrong one. It is natural (and human) to be able to share your life with more than only one person.
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote: Once again, as with the discussion of "What is death?" you have strayed from your topic. The question "What is death?" is not the same as the question "Is there an after-life?" They are two different questions.
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote: In your discussion on "What is self?" you seem to lack common terms and then stray off into other areas. For Locatus it is simple, all is physical. Fatalistic, meaningless, a depressingly "go throw yourself in the lake" kind of reality. In just such a world as Locatus paints, only the Absurd Man does not commit suicide. No doubt it was Locatus that depressed Lupus so. For the rest who do not hold to absolute materialism "Self" means more than just the physical body and you need to define "Self" before you go wandering off on whether we have a soul. Mencius began by adding in some terms. His expression of Plato's thoughts on the subject seem a little garbled, but a start. Tiberius' world is much different from Locatus, but seems undefined to me.
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote: And now you wish to confuse the subject of whether true love exists with the subject of whether monogomy is a natural state of humanity, and confuse love with sex and procreation., all without first defining any terms. I might also point out, if you will forgive an old man for doing so, that few of you in these discussions have much in the way of experience with death, or love, or marriage. How do you pose to discuss long term love relations when you really do not have that many years to base your ideas on?
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote:First I would say that from what has been said already that some of you divorce the idea of love from sex. That I would agree with. Hormones, phenomes, and a few other physical aspects come into play with sex, but whether that has anything to do with love as companionship is another matter. Love is more companionship, and if you move on to marriage then that concept of love will be more important. Then you seem to be confusing the idea of "true love" with loving only one person, and some here seem to confuse that with marriage. Well, a romantic idea to be married to your one true love, but that never happens, and people tend to grow out of their one true loves as they get older.
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote:Your conception of a true love will change as you mature. Ideally in a marriage both partners will continue to mature and grow, although never do they do so exactly at the same time, and so it becomes a matter of compatability between them, in order to remain together as one or the other is trying to catch up. What you look for as your own true love as a teen is not the same as you look for in your twenties, thirties, forties or fifties, and beyond that I will have to wait to see. I get the impression from my father that his ideal true love at this time in his life is one that doesn't bother or fuss over him. A younger person may confuse sexual attraction with love, in which case for a young man his ideal true love can change as quickly as he turns the page of a magazine, or as quickly as a line of coeds pass him by.
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote: Someone in their mid to late twenties, after passing through all too many sexual affairs may begin to seek one special person, in which case their ideals for a true love will be completely different from the adolescent teen just beginning to discover sex. And the older you get, the more your situation changes, your ideals will change, but there is also the matter of psychological development, that goes back to your question on Self. As your Self matures, what you will look for in a mate, spouse, or love (not necessarily all in one person) is bound to change as well.
Fatalistic, meaningless, a depressingly "go throw yourself in the lake" kind of reality. In just such a world as Locatus paints, only the Absurd Man does not commit suicide. No doubt it was Locatus that depressed Lupus so
M Moravi Horati Piscine wrote:For Locatus it is simple, all is physical. Fatalistic, meaningless, a depressingly "go throw yourself in the lake" kind of reality. In just such a world as Locatus paints, only the Absurd Man does not commit suicide.
Gnæus Dionysius Draco wrote:The girl in question was insane (borderline syndrome).
Marcus Pomponius Lupus wrote:Just a little note on the side
Fatalistic, meaningless, a depressingly "go throw yourself in the lake" kind of reality. In just such a world as Locatus paints, only the Absurd Man does not commit suicide. No doubt it was Locatus that depressed Lupus so
It wasn't Locatus, it wasn't even with a member of the svr I was having these talks; just to prevent that members stop talking to Locatus for fear of a depression
For Locatus it is simple, all is physical. Fatalistic, meaningless, a depressingly "go throw yourself in the lake" kind of reality.
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