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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:08 am
by Helena Iulia
Salvete all Latinists and Catullus fans, I am doing a paper on Catullus 76 and I need some help with the scansion. Scanning the poem is not required for the paper, although it is one element that I want to look at. In particular, I'm stuck on line 6: Ex hoc in gra to || gau di a a mo re ti bi.
In the first part of the line, I have two spondees and the "to" is long. If that is right, I then don't know what to do with the gaudia amore. Any help? Thanks

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:12 am
by Helena Iulia
Salvete, whoops, just realized I'm in the wrong collegium. Sorry

Helena Iulia

Betwixt and Between

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:56 am
by Aldus Marius
Salve, mi Helena,

Actually, you're straddling one of our fuzzier boundaries. This is the Collegium Artium et Litterarum, so discussion of Catullus' work in its artistic aspect, as Literature, would be at home here. But where to put discussions of Catullus' use of Language? Scansion and such? --Your gut instinct may be correct; the Collegium Linguarum might be a better fit.

But the issue is far from resolved. We've gotten a little heated with each other over which Collegium Latin literature should belong to. The current setup (mine) does admittedly feel a little schizoid. We'll figure it out eventually. Until then, there's no such thing as the "wrong" Collegium for literature; there's just more than one possibility.

In amicitia et fide,

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:42 am
by Q Valerius
ēx hōc īngrātō gaūdĭa ămōrĕ tĭbĭ.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:18 am
by Helena Iulia
Salve, Valeri

Gratias ago tibi

Helena Iulia

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:13 pm
by Q Valerius
That last one should be anceps, if I'm not mistaken. This is written in haste, and without a chance to look over it. Ignosce mihi.

Catullus gets a Wiki!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:03 pm
by Aldus Marius
Salvete, fautores poetae,

This just in from the good grammatici at [LatinTeach]: Catullus has a Wiki!

Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007
Subject: [Latinteach] Ronnie Ancona's New Catullus Wiki


A few weeks ago, Ronnie Ancona (Hunter College, CUNY), was contacted by a Latin teacher using Ancona's Catullus reader, Writing Passion. The teacher wanted to know if there were any on-line resources to help her use the textbook in class. While there is a teachers' guide available, there were no on-line helps specific to the book, or an on-line community for the book's users.

With a little effort, we were able to create a Wiki dedicated to Ronnie's book. A Wiki is one of those funny Internet words meaning, "a website that anyone can easily read, edit, or add to". Ronnie's Wiki (I giggle writing that) is for teachers to use for Catullus with specific sections dedicated to Writing Passion. Here's what's up so far at :

- Plaintext (untranslated Latin) of 42 Catullus poems
- Select, current bibliography for each of the 42 poems
- Teaching Tools for Catullus and Writing Passion (still under development -- technically anything in a Wiki is "under development").
- Catullus events (right now we are working on a Webinar on Catullus for spring 2008).
- Explanations of meter used by Catullus and links to poems that fit each meter.
- General Bibliography on Catullus scholarship and resources.

What you see on the Wiki is a start. Ronnie and I will add to the Wiki over time, but we do strongly encourage all Latin teachers and Catullus scholars to visit the Wiki, make edits/corrections, add content (e.g. new bibliography, commentary, teaching tips, etc.) on the different pages therein.

The Wiki was free to create and is free for anyone to use. If you wish to help your fellow teachers or extend the breadth of Catullus scholarship, please edit or add to pages (or even create new pages) -- you can create a Wiki login for yourself. You do not need to know anything about coding, HTML, XML, or other scary Interweb stuff to update the site. If you can click and type, you can update pages.

Interested Latin teachers can receive automated notifications of changes to content on the site. This means the community can immediately check for accuracy, relevance and the like, just like one can do with the Wikipedia.

Ronnie is thrilled to have this resource now available (and I'm sure her teacher-muse who drove the creation of this project is also happy), so please visit when you can, read, and contribute to the content.


Andrew Reinhard
eLearning Coordinator
Bolchazy-Carducci Publishers
847.526.4344 x19

(Paging Valerius Poplicola...!) >({|;-)

In amicitia et fide,

PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:47 am
by Q Valerius
Thanks for the link. This is also a good site: