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Aeneas in Scotland?

Postby Aulus Dionysius Mencius on Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:50 am

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Did Aeneas ever come across Scotland? One might think so after seeing one of Rick Stein's cooking programs.

He was up in the highlands to visit an organic breeding farm of Highland cattle, and the farmer's name was... Aeneas.
What a mighty name for such a proud Scotsman.

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Postby Gnaeus Dionysius Draco on Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:10 am

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Are you sure it wasn't a Scotsman with a very strange accent? ;)

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Postby Quintus Aurelius Orcus on Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:14 pm

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I think what you saw was a man who was given the same name as a mythological figure, by his parents. Sometimes people still do that, name their children after mythological figures. We know that the Carthaginians and the Phoenicians reached England, maybe even further than that, as the Phoenicians have said to be the first to travel around the continent of Africa on request of an Egyptian pharaoh. But I never heard anything that would even suggest Aeneas or any other Greek reached Scotland. I think there was evidence that suggested that the Greeks traded with Celts in Central- Europe, but that was more due to the fact that the Greeks ahd colonies on the coast of southern Gaul.
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Postby Aulus Dionysius Mencius on Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:55 pm

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I knew I had to add smileys in my post... I was aware that the Greecs never set foot on Scotland, but it was just to introduce the man's name.

Nevertheless, thanx for the additional info, my friend :wink:
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Postby Quintus Aurelius Orcus on Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:54 pm

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Did you ever read the History of Geoffrey Monmouth. He lived in the 11th century AD and wrote about the legend of King Arthur and claimed that King Arthur was a descendant of Aeneas. Somebody has mentioned this to me today.
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Postby Aulus Dionysius Mencius on Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:54 pm

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I am familiar with Geoffrey of Monmouth. However, I have not (yet) read his Histories.

I sometimes find it amusing how King Arthur, himself being a controversy, is linked with ancient Greece and/or Roma. There are people who link him to Aeneas, other people link him to a member of the last Imperial family that ruled Rome. One of that family supposedly went to England or Scotland, and there he became known as Pendragon, Arthur's alleged father... Imaginative writing, if you ask me.

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Postby Quintus Aurelius Orcus on Sat Sep 18, 2004 7:58 pm

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Didn't Ovid create the story of Aeneas fleeing to Latium for the emperor Augustus because he (the emperor) wanted to create a original myth?
I thaught i read somewhere that Augustus ordered Ovid to do just that.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not.

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Postby Aulus Dionysius Mencius on Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:02 pm

It would not surprise me... Rewriting history or creating one's own results in a fine display on your curriculum vitae, does it not?
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Postby Quintus Aurelius Orcus on Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:06 pm

back than, it would still be doable. Now, it is almost impossible to do something like that, but that doesn't seem to stop people from trying to rewrite history.
Anyway Ovid was a poet and they were known for creating stories of the gods and passing them down from generation to generation. Still, they were criticized by some philosophers like Plato and Sokrates. Maybe there were others aswell.

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